Apostasy of Rick Warren

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Rick Warren Is Not Opposed To Homosexual Partnerships

Posted by susanb99 on December 30, 2008

From True Discernment:

In his own Words: Rick Warren is not Opposed to Homosexual Partnerships: The Video

In his own words from his own Web Site

Rick Warren at 3 minutes and 38 seconds of his 12/22/2008 News & Views Video says that he is not opposed to Homosexual partnerships, but he is opposed to Homosexuals using the term marriage for their partnerships.

Makes you wonder if he has taken tips from Bill Clinton on how to make something seem different when actually it is not, by using vague and undefined language!


Rick Warren says that marriage is between a man and a woman and that sex is not to occur outside marriage, but he is not opposed to Homosexual partnerships, hmmm. And he has never claimed that Homosexual relationships are the same as pedophilia or incest as those relationships are forced, hmmm Mr. Warren what act is not forced in homosexual partnerships?


Now before we try and clear the very heavy mud with which Mr. Warren speaks let me say this. I see now why politicians like him so much!


As he speaks with the same lack of clarity as they do! He attempts to speak a message that pleases almost everyone while upsetting almost no one.

First he pacifies his Saddleback followers: Of course he believes that Marriage is just between a man and a woman! And that sex should only occur in a marriage.


This last statement further pacifies his followers as it makes it look as if he infers that his later statement about him being ok with Homosexual partnerships means that those homosexual partners are not having sexual relations. Hmmm ok, and with that we can either try to believe that Mr.  Warren is really naive and thinks that a Homosexual partnership means remaining celibate and just holding hands! Or we can say he is being actively vague in order to be deceptive in order to curry favor with certain groups!


Mr. Warren with his vague language also pacifies those unrepentant homosexuals who are leaning his way and it takes the heat off of his politician friends, who don’t want to be associated with someone who is against homosexuality but want to curry favor with apostate “christian” voters. By Mr. Waren saying that Homosexual relationships are not the same as incest or pedophilia! Which I mean come on, when you are trying to use logic that says Homosexuality is not the same as incest or pedophilia because it is not forced! What is not forced? The sex is not forced! It’s voluntary!


Mr. Warren neatly leaves the door open to later “adjust” his stance on homosexuality further should he receive flack from the homosexual lobby or his political buddies!


And Mr. Warren once again covers all his bases, nice tap dancing there Rick! This man’s phone must be ringing off the hook from Politicians asking him if he can help them with their speech writing!


Now if you listened to the earlier portions of the video you will hear Rick Warren saying that Christian Bloggers who criticize him should “Get a Life”.

In his words Bloggers just exist to create conflict and to feed off of that conflict!


I have a message for you Mr. Warren, this site does not exist to create and feed off of conflict. It exists to inform Christians of wolves like you who are false Christians! People like you who trample into the dust the Truth of God’s Word, who have a form of Godliness, but deny the power there of!


It grieves my spirit to see men like you obscure and then destroy the Truth of God’s word for their own fallen and selfish ambitions! Who comform to the World while you deform the Word!


This video should make all Christians fall on their knees and weep before God for the damage that you do to the name of Christ!


It is supremely tragic that anyone would follow this man and actually claim that he is a Minister of the Gospel of Christ!


This man speaks with a forked tongue! First he trashes Valid Online Christian Discernment Ministries! Then once he has marginalized those ministries he starts into his world conforming compromise message that he is not opposed to Gays! He is not opposed to Gay Partnerships, and that he embraces views that are accepted by the majority of the World!


I ask WHERE is there ANY Biblical support for what he is spewing in this video! There is none! His words are actually a Non-Christian World conforming and hence Bible denying message!


Romans 12:1-2:


I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God


I am not sure how long Saddleback will leave this video up, of course they may be at the point where they do not care anymore what Rick Warren spews forth, as their base of followers are so compromised that they cannot recognize what is Truth and what is a lie!


The people who follow after Rick Warren have become blind to God’s Truth because they have replaced their Love for God for the love of a Man!


It is utterly heartbreaking to know what their end will be!


And in closing, do you know why you do not see hardly any high profle mega ministers admonishing Mr. Warren over his muddy world conforming speech?


They know and utilize the same language, and to come out and speak against Rick Warren means they might lose their “High Seat”. They might get tagged by the main stream media as “extremist” and not get invited again to schmooze on national television.




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